Friday, October 31, 2003

The Jon said at 1:17 PM :

79,847 is prime, and of course I used a computer. How is that cheating? It's not cheating. It's being efficient. School's (especially colleges!) shouldn't force people to work at anything less than optimum efficiency. If you want to increase your factoring efficiency, go here. It's a Java applet that can factor numbers up to 1,000 digits in length.

Thursday, October 30, 2003

The Amanda said at 9:49 PM :

sleigh

The Jon said at 2:21 PM :

1, 107, 79847, 8,543,629

The Jamie and Sarah said at 7:29 AM :

" 'i' before 'e' except after 'c' and words that rhyme with 'neighbor' "

The question is however, how many words do you know that rhyme with 'neighbor'. I am sure there are a bunch, but I couldn't think of any this morning (its a bit early).

The Jamie and Sarah said at 7:26 AM :

Hey...You should all go read Jesse's Dream Blog. His X-men dream from October 14th rocks! Jesse, it made me laugh because thats exactly the kind of wierd discombobulated dream that I would have...

Wednesday, October 29, 2003

The Jon said at 11:56 AM :

Thank you, Kristen. I appreciate that. Here's a permalink for the post.

Tuesday, October 28, 2003

The Jon said at 11:22 AM :

Wow. I feel like such a minority. Jeff, you brought up some excellent points, showing that abortion is a much more nuanced and complex issue than we've reduced it to.

Bec, Kristen, et. al.... (I'd address each point individually, I think I can lump sum here and still be communicating effectively.) Yes, we need to be willing to call things what they are. And "brood of vipers" wasn't politically correct language by any stretch of the imagination. Its closest modern day equivalent would offend most of the readers of this blog. Anyways... that's how Jesus addressed the religious community. That's how He talked to those who should have known better. But can someone give me one example in the Gospels where Jesus used anything less than docile language to speak to those still on the outside? I might have different words about this topic if I were speaking with you in person, but this is a public blog. The last thing I would want to see is some young girl suffering through the trauma of just experiencing an abortion be called a "baby killer." I don't see her as that, and neither does Christ. Christ sees the bigger picture, Christ extends forgiveness, Christ doesn't condemn her. Christ wouldn't cast the stone, either physically or with His words. We sit here in our high, lofty perch, looking down on those still on the outside, hating NOW and NARAL, condemning Planned Parenthood. That's not how Jesus would have acted. Jesus would have presented the path for His disciples to follow, while loving and passionately pursuing those on another path.

I know that was all slightly tangential to the main point - is partial birth abortion a misnomer? I believe so, but I can’t find a better word for it. It's too complicated for me to understand. I haven't gone to medical school. You can read more here.

Monday, October 27, 2003

The jeff said at 8:11 PM :

interesting discussion. Both of you are right. True words spoken (even if it is my version of truth) often are inflammatory. Jesus spoke many inflammatory words to the religious community - often so do I. Jesus also spoke loving words to people - I hope I do that too. I guess one shouldn't always need to be politically correct. The NPR lover in me wants to be politically correct, but the righteous anger in me wants to call the abortionists baby killers.
Certainly in a debate situation, it is reasonable to call someone what they wish to be called - this keeps the heated discussion to a reasonable roar rather than making people flip out at each other. Dialog and discussion can sometime bring clarity to an issue, but its hard to dialog and discuss in a reasonable fashion when everyone is "insulting" each other - intentionally or accidentally.

I believe that our advances in science have muddied up the waters on abortion, I predict that some day soon, late term abortion will be illegal - it just doesnt seem to make sense to kill a viable human just for convenience. That said, does a 4 cell fertilized egg embreo have a spirit and a soul? Does a sperm cell or an egg cell carry that spirit (as many catholics believe) or what. I'm not sure any of that can be proved from scripture. Some couples that are trying to have a baby could be losing one or more of those a month. Will that family meet their 35 children when they get to heaven, and what age will they be? will they still have just 4 cells or will they be fully grown? I certainly believe that life begins before conception, but what does that mean?